Still trying to not focus on their revamped image and just enjoy the warm sounds. Sort of disappointed in myself for the way my consumption is awkwardly self-aware and speculative. Why can’t I just like it without trying to draw some kind of deeper meaningfulness. This is music, not identity fulfillment. Right?

  1. Tim London (Reply) on Dec 13, 2012

    Hey Christopher (I’m presuming).

    Sounds like you need some help here. Young Fathers began young – very young, 14 when they got together and their journey has been documented along the way. Unfortunately they didn’t arrive fully formed and, fortunately, they still aren’t fully formed, still got some growing and changing to get through.

    Pulling vid’s from the internet is very difficult – believe me, we’ve tried. So just about everything they’ve done is still up there, somewhere. But it’s such a fucking distraction. Mainly because they don’t tell the story, they just illustrate certain aspects of it.

    I guess it’s one reason why so many in hip hop pull a sour face for every pic, loaded with blunts and gang signs and all the tired paraphernalia of ‘keeping it real’. It means they can never be accused of being something they’re not in reality. There’s no proof, only hearsay (‘didn’t you grow up in a middle class neighbourhood?’)

    The need for authenticity is a story-killer. The truly interesting shit doesn’t come out because of the need to come on hard. Scotland’s got it’s own version of the ‘hard man’ myth. Miserable and mean minded. struggling out of the gutter by any means necessary. Translated into music it’s no more authentic than Serge Gainsbourg singing about Bonny & Clyde.

    So YFs don’t sing allegorical songs of hardship and struggle, even though their backgrounds are probably tougher than most. They just struck out into the ocean on a hand made raft and let the musical currents take them where they will.

    Recently, the seas have been dark and stormy. That’s all.

    The stories you don’t get to see are the ones to do with a group not in charge of their own destiny, being misrepresented. You just see the end product, which can sometimes be mystifyingly weird.

    When I picked up management earlier this year I began working hard with the group to make sure the stories reflect them and not some PR company’s chinese whisper.

    So relax – the wool’s well away from your eyeballs, the smoke’s nowhere near your arse – what you see in the fog and mystery of where north Atlantic currents collide with those from the south, is just what it looks like – blink – now it looks like something else. Merman or Ateleopodidae, it doesn’t matter, the song is still beautiful.


    Tim London

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