Saul Williams ain’t promoting Nike, it’s the other way around. At least that’s his perspective. This has made the rounds but just wanted to make sure people get a chance to see. Track and commercial after the jump. (v i a)
related: Krs-One Explains Why He’s Not Selling Out, Authenticity Is The New Business Model
update: Some comments by Saul Williams after the jump. Long read but definitely a must.
Download Saul Williams – List Of Demands (Reparations)
My better Nike
FYI guys Nike sales don’t actually fluctuate much based on their ad campaigns, they pretty much stay the same, based on actual sports figures. However, the amount of interest in the artists they feature does seem to raise. So, I repeat:
The question is not why is Saul Williams doing a Nike commercial, but rather, why is Nike doing a Saul Williams commercial? Could it somehow be related to why McDonalds is selling veggie burgers , car companies are creating hybrids, or Wal-Mart is going green? Is there any relation between the Niggy Tardust lyrics, “ …Paint him on your lunchbox or your thermos for a fee…side effects may include simply doing what you say..” and NikeResponsibility.com? Even if Nike is only making changes in their business tactics in response to the heat they”ve caught, they’ve actually gone to the point of now being a leader in getting foreign governments (and it’s the governments that have major changes to make) to stop child factory labor. Fact is, when I lived in Brasil, the city I lived in only offered high school classes at night because most kids my age had to work during the day (in their case, farms not factories). By day, many of them were picking fruit that we find in our grocery stores here. Now pose yourself this question: if you made veggie burgers for a living, filled with vitamins and all sorts of goodies intended to boost the immune system and support a healthy heart and Wendy’s contacted you and said, “Hey, we’d like to carry your veggie burgers in our store” would you become excited about all the people who might now experience the wonderful effects and health benefits of your veggie burger or would you say, “Fuck you! You and your cows are depleting the rain forest” and let them get their veggie burger from someone else (who uses egg whites in their mix)? { What if you could get them to start using biodegradable stuff to wrap them in? what if they decided to use it on all of their products? }
Ofcourse, you could also opt to open your own business and slowly begin to learn what it takes (and takes) to expand your vision. Or not.
The revolution is not eco-elitist. It involves leaving enough slack in the rope for the existing norm to change it’s ways, shift it’s patterns, and apply our growing concerns to new business models. There is certainly a time when a loud and emphatic NO! achieves the best result, but there are also times to invite those who have known no better into the broader realm of discussion and be a part of the paradigm shift.
I actually sat with the global director of Nike last week (yes, he got a chance to hang with Niggy for a day) and learned first hand about the history and the changes implemented in the corporation and it’s factories. A corporation, I might add, that ain’t going out of business anytime soon. What they hope to accomplish, factory-wise, by 2011 is pretty complex and if they are able to do it, it will effect many other brands and how they do business as well. I’m not trying to make them out to be the messiah or anything, I’m simply saying that if you think your cynical analysis as to why I would allow my song to play in that commercial is more their master plan than mine then maybe you’re giving too much power to the corporate entities and too little to the age and times we are living in. Maybe you don’t realize the power of artists and of art.
See, my activism has taken me from sticking my middle finger up at people who think differently than me to engaging in dialogue with those in position to make changes while realizing the power of my/our influence in these discussions. I didn’t go into business with Nike, they went into business with me and now begins the process of them putting their money where my mouth is. We talked about sports camps in inner cities, Africa, India, and Asia. We talked about scholarships. And as stated earlier, yes, we definitely talked about sweat shops and child labor.
I am with you in not trusting the media and the so-called powers that be, but if those powers have made us less than exuberant about being alive, less than imaginative about the change that we might create in our lifetime, less than aware of the fact that the powers of being will always prevail over the powers that be, then you’re already wearing the suit that you have rejected. The uniformity of cynicism that appeals to the intellectual elite, to the do-gooders, and the so-called rebels of our times is bad business for creative prosperity. We need to focus our energy on the creative upliftment of our times. Imagine the best possible results and begin manifesting them.
Measure the conceit of your choices. Are you defined by how much you’ve said No to or by the passion of your Yes? Your choices are your own. Your decisions are your own. Do not surrender the power of your perspective to cliché forms of analysis. We grow and learn, just like mega-corporations. We surrender our lesser practices for new and improved means of achieving our goals. As we raise our standards so does the world around us.
ps: Lose your cynicism. It’s way more powerful than ignorance, simply because it is pointed. If you are amongst us hoping and praying for change, do not invest in the negative “what if” conversations without realizing that you may be feeding that possibility by focused projection.
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Three of my books are published by MTV and I discuss my reasons for that in the middle of ,said the shotgun. Now is the MTV/Viacom machine much different than NIke? Probably not. I’ve sat with those executives too. My first album was distributed by Sony/Columbia, I met with those executives too. My film Slam was distributed by Trimark, I met with those executives too. I say all this to say that if you wish to think that I am now working from within the system, then you should probably conclude that I have been all along. But in my, opinion, you’ll still be giving too much power to “the system” and not enough power to the fact that I all I have done is used the existing infrastructure to crumble it. That was my goal with Slam and remains. It is not contradictory to my stating that many in commercial hip hop are stating, believing, or teaching that money is power. In fact I’m actually demonstrating how we can use our collective spirit, our power, our insight, and their money against them. By the way, I am participating in this discussion because I think it’s important that all would be revolutionaries upgrade their idea of how, when, and why, and through what means the revolution takes place. Ofcourse, my perspective is that it is internal: a shift of ideals, values etc, and then a re-application of ones wealth, spirit, and intelligence as applied to the world at large. Think of the number of people who either, one, know nothing of Nike’s practices past or present, never even considered holding a corporation responsible for being about change, maybe even some of them are athletes (and most atheletes have a very different perspective of the Nike brand and corporation), two, think of the many people that never hear of me until now, who saw the commercial, researched the song, listened to the lyrics, sought out more material and are now on the path of possibly thinking in new ways about themselves, about art, about the media, about race, about America, etc. (they’re sending me long letters on myspace), three, think of the computer you’re typing on, who made it? where? using what? from where? and realize that the inevitable rise and liberation of us all is dependent on threads like this as much as they are dependent on artists like Sage, or people like you, and that all of us have a lot of growing up to do, alot to contemplate and question, and that standing firm on your position is much easier at times than re-thinking, forgiving, broadening your scope etc. The fact is, I chose to do the ad, because i remembered the time when I wouldn’t and I needed practice in articulating why and how my views had expanded. It was the same thing that I was attempting to express in the song Niggy Tardust with the “paint him on your lunchbox” line. I think you move through ranks with your learning. Just as I have expressed that I went through times when I hated white people and that those times were preceded by times when I wished I was white, and am now looking at a bigger, broader, and more compassionate picture, I have also, grown alot in my perspective as to why I create art, how I choose to package, market, or sell it, and what it all means to my proccess. I certainly used to think that anyone who made money off their art was a sellout. I grew out of that when I was offered an initial 7 grand to make Slam which was more money than I ever had in my life. Then I learned about getting short changed etc., playing my cards differently etc. However, throughout all of my growth process you seldom hear me talk about money in my work. why? ’cause it ain’t the lesson I’ve aimed to teach. We got enough emcees teaching that lesson, and I’m actually not dissing when I say that. I think what Jay z has taught drug dealers about flipping their loot into legitimacy is really important. The CIA wasn’t gonna teach that after they brought the drugs in, so more power to him. He actually upgraded alot of the community with that. And so did many others. That discussion is not my forte though. What I’m trying to show now is that even my perspective on those rappers you hear me talk about on the wakeup show has shifted in the time between then and now. Not that I think their views are any less republican, simply that I’ve found a better way of expressing my perspective and also a clearer insight into the pro’s of their actions instead of only voicing the cons, which is basically just easy. Think Malcolm X vs. El Hajj Malik el Shabazz. Most of us prefer Malcolm X, Just like many people love to hear me spit Amethyst Rocks. Why? ’cause we like that anger and it’s willfully destructive qualities. But there’s something that comes after that. And if u stick around for a minute you begin to learn from and through your anger and channel it into a more articulate rage. That’s the difference between amethyst Rocks and , Saiid the Shotgun. me then and me now. I’m blossoming y’all and I really dig it, even if you don’t.
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1. Is white privilege ever mentioned or the varying modes of dissent in different communities? Does anyone acknowledge that my largely white underground fanbase may be upset by the ad but that a grand majority of the people my music addresses may not have had me under their radar until now?… Including those who would most readily benefit from ‘reparations’, who are now swopping airforce ones online, and have given little thought to corporate integrity suddenly are exposed to these ideas and more through my work?
Two quotes come to mind here:
“If I contradict myself it is because I contain multitudes”
Walt Whitman
“I contradict myself? I contradict myself!”
Oscar Wilde
2. The next thing that comes to mind is cynicism and those who define their political consciousness by mere dissent and what they say no to versus what they are open to and the power of their Yes. I think of this primarily because when I spoke to a Nike exec last week and asked if they were aware of the hate they get from the thinking few, which was really my way of bringing up Nikeresponsibility.com to see how real it was, I was surprised by the steps they are taking and the people they are bringing in to help them shift their corporation. This has made me contemplate how the activist responds when their rally cry is heard. Are
we prepared to show love to those who begin to correct their wrongs or do we damn them to hell? As an ‘AfricanAmerican’, I’ve had to learn to be very forgiving towards people who in many cases simply knew no better and didn’t realize the weight of their comments or actions on me.
By the way, what struck me the most about visiting the Nike headquarters was not that they were corporate vampires, but they were all ex-athletes and coaches who had gotten injured or retired and started working with Nike. That whole ‘did u see the game?’ mentality was the main vibe of the whole place. Very different from a corporate empire as I might imagine. No suits, just basketball hoops in offices, blaring sports center moniters, and story swopping about their kids playing for whatever school and winning or losing. They were a bunch of jocks who thought my music was great to work out to and then found that it resonated a little deeper with each listen. I didn’t know it was founded by two track stars (one was Prefontaines coach and is credited with
bringing/popularizing jogging to the states) who were hired by Tiger, a japanese training shoe company, who eventually left the company to start their own using their Tiger connections..thus the asian factory connection. Ofcourse the cultural norm in other lands, in particular in regards to working age and hours can be pretty fucked outside of our zone of priviege. And the fact is, smaller US companies benefit from these practices now more than Nike, but because of their size and dimension, Nike is one of the few who can actually make demands to the governments of these countries to change their ways, which is the only way to truly end child labor or sweatshops when it is a cultural norm. It was interesting to learn of how most of the higher ups started paying
attention to this only because their kids started asking questions. So then they started asking questions and are now in the middle of a major shift, just like the record industry, just like America. Just like me, I might add. I’ve gone from saying fuck you to those I disagree with to actually sitting down with them and realizing that I could influence their behavior better through dialogue. An example of this is how Kanye’s Diamonds are from Sierre Leone song came about. It was originally entitled Diamonds are Forever, but when my producing partner, Tiffany Persons sent a treatment that I wrote of a doc we were then working on about the relationship between the attrocities surrounding diamond mines in Africa and Hip Hop and the African American population,
he actually called us saying he had no clue and could we come give him a crash course. So we did. First he changed the name of the song, then he had me come sit with him and Hype Williams as they mapped out a video tracing a diamond from a mine to a showcase. Years earlier, I had had a pretty big argument with my girlfriend of the time, a friend of Hypes, who had invited him to dinner with us, where I had refused to say a word to him cause I couldn’t stand his effect on hip hop through his affiliation with puffy and such…
Anyway, back to my Nike tour, i actually couldn’t believe how much money sports generate, which is great when I remember that just last year I was thinking of national sports teams being possibly the best alternative to war. People need something to do with their nationalism. Anyway, as u can see, I learned and am learning a lot through this little gesture of saying yes where in the past I would have said no.
Its funny cause my new year resolution back in 2002 was to say yes to whatever comes, cause I had spent previous years saying No to so much and I wanted to see if I could trust the possibility of the universe bringing things my way for my growth and spiritual prosperity rather than for the sake or test of my rejection. That year, the thing I said yes to was the TV show Girlfriends, a UPN sitcom produced by Kelsey Grammar. Not only did I learn not to judge a book by its cover by meeting and interacting with the super-smart and funny women who created and star in the show, who raised politicized questions behind the scenes about their characters and lines in ways I never imagined they would, but I also met, Persia, whose boyfreind I played on the show, and is now
my wife (its been 30 days!).
This year my new years resolution was to accept greater responsibility. The definition of responsibility that I like best has primarily to do with handling greater amounts of energy. To me, this involves not shying away from anything from responding to emails or song liscensing requests even though the repercussions may demand more of my attention than I feel like giving. In the case of this commercial which uses my song, I really do believe that its my song that’s using the commercial. And no I do not stand behind all the harm that major corporations can and have done to humanity and that also goes for Apple (which aint green) and countless others that I believe we will make more responsible for their actions through dialogue such as this and by the mere evolution of our
awareness. And yes, also by the power of our dissent. Creative dissent makes the biggest waves it seems. But sometimes saying No or Fuck you is way to easy when we ostracize a world of change we could create. Blah Blah. Pull this van over I gotta piss.
Grippo,
Saul

[...] a solid dude with thought-provoking music. Saul had a response for the critics of the Nike spot and Grandgood was grand good enough to post it. The full, lengthy statment by Saul is after the jump. If you got [...]
I’m not buying it.
We consume wayyyy too much as americans, and NIKE should be boycotted. Period.
Unless, Saul Williams has donated his salary from Nike to this kids in a third world country getting paid jack to build the shoes, then I’m not buying it.
1. Advocate a boycott on Nike and other products FIRST.
2. The idea of getting paid to put a song in conjunction with a company that has a horrible history of exploitation is ominous and egregious at best. Not to mention, that an artist’s music and integrity immediately gets watered down as a result. No one with taste appreciates an artist they dig, when the start getting in bed with advertisers.
3. Why not use your song for a company that has great, eco-friendly, beneficial products for consumers? Oh right — they don’t *quite* have the same bankroll of paying people to use one of their tunes.
4. There is nothing wrong with putting a song in a commercial, if the product is a GOOD product, ESPECIALLY if that corporation doesn’t have a history of such gross andblatant exploitation. What – I’m supposed to think Saul Williams is cool/thoughtful/conscious because he has a discussion with the head of Gobal marketing about slave labor? Big deal? The point is it is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW and no artist with a shred of diginity or integrity should get in bed with any corporation/advertisement, while that CURRENTLY EXISTS.
Look, I’ve seen ‘Slam’ — it changed my life — I loved it — I’ve seen the guy online and all of his AMAZING poetry, he is one talented dude. I wish hi nothing but love and respect, and I like his idea of saying yes to more than less….but c’mon man….make a commercial about what they are doing and what NIKE and Saul are trying to do to change it. That would be a GREAT way to use the song, and the change in ONE…instead of getting paid a fat salary for what? Some bullshit company that continues to exploit people as we speak?
The material world is a guise with a guise, and the extra money one could make from such disingenuous practices is gross. I only wish more artists I looked up to, like Saul, felt the same.
Don’t think we would’ve seen Chuck D do one of these ads a few years back.
I’ve just watched the commercial. Saul nothing in your song’s use in that video corresponds with the picture you have painted in regards to Nike’s commitment to human rights and sustainability.
This is not to say, that they have not done well to at least be willing to present their conscious directives on the site nikeresponsibility.com.
The point I’m trying to make is that for the risk to your clout as a truly progressive renaissance emcee; is that they should at least have had the song correspond with their sustainable marketing push.
Nothing in the commercial leads me to believe that Nike is doing anything other than what they always have which is to sex up athletic competition and appeal to man’s base desires to dominate in sport ritual.
I was hoping that they would make that preeminent if they were to feature one of your songs and jeopardize your standing as an uncompromising artist.
Now did you feel that you caused them to reach this epiphany, or were you merely a figure who represented the ideals of the LOHAS (lifestyles of health and sustainability) market?
Are you a social meme who they are employing to convey that they are hip to evolutionary ideals?
And if so why? Did you have any control over the message of the commercial?
How is it that your grand awareness is being presented to the public at large
other than by suggestion? A suggestion that would only be understood by those who
are familiar with your work and activism. And yet at first glance most likely
cause them to cringe upon seeing your beautiful song used in such a hollow manner. (in my humble opinion, saul I can’t watch the damn commercial, it makes me sad)
As a long time fan I am only being honest with you as to how viewing
the commercial made me feel.
I and many of your fans,I imagine would like to know;
Is nike willing to submit to independent oversight in regards to the
maintenance of their own stated eco-conscious agenda?
How will they express this in future commercials rather than in
an online pdf.
I give Saul kudos for wanting to invoke a new paradigm by whatever means necessary.
I hope in the future he will when working with tainted corporations; who seek
to redeem their image in order to insure their continued place (dominance) in the market, take
steps to insure that they maintain their agreements.
Also I should hope he would express the details of his contract and what his plans were to spend the money earned in exchange for the use of his image. Transparency engenders trust and shows courage and openness. It is these traits that nike is seeking to emulate no?
I hope his signal remains strong as he desires
to pull others up aware or not.
I believe this is possible and am optimistic.
In the spirit of Ray Anderson I too desire to see all industries become more conscious and aware in their practices. Saul is right, cynicism is debilitating when a bridge cannot be made between opposing viewpoints.
Dr. King was expert in ensuring that both sides of the debate’s opinions were heard and that a
compromise could be born between them. He truly understood the maxim
“The only true way to rid yourself of an enemy is to make them a friend.”
Nike has the power and the influence to help steer all in the apparel industry towards a more sustainable path. I applaud there effort, the argument could be made that their advertising is already working being that I am taking the time to pen this response. But I must say they shouldn’t pat themselves on the back too soon as they have a large karmic debt to pay in regard to their companies psychic impact on humanity. They reap a massive profit from every shoe that is constructed and similar to old money from slavery owe the debt of reparations rather than only enhanced working conditions for their still enslaved work force. Saul I know what you are trying to do, but you have to be careful and also take pains to hold them accountable.
I know you wish what is best for all mankind, this is a risky strategy and one that Im not sure is in line with your previous infrastructure hacking. But then again I could very well be wrong,
if you can inspire Nas to realize and ponder more deeply his effect on young minds, hopefully you can do the same with multi-national corporations. Not that I’m comparing the two.
Ray Anderson’s company Interface was able to achieve this result and has proven the power of an idea whose time has come when it is employed with positive intention.
The Revolutionary predilection towards a “Scorched Earth” policy is likened to Chemotherapy. Yes we may survive the treatment, but the time of recovery could be extensive and in the end prove unnecessarily costly; and in light of Dr. Bruce Lipton’s Epi-genetic research; just unnecessary.
Saul I again commend you for at least presenting this issue for comment and consideration.
Congratulations on your marriage and to your continued success as an avatar of soul.
Love always
-NOW (Camron)
http://www.weareallone.tv
PEACE^
I TOO LOVE KING SAUL’S GENIUS^ AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR SENTIMENT TO A DEGREE^ I AM 100% SURE THAT HE HAS MADE THE BEST DECISION NECESSARY^ I’M SADDENED THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING SELL-OUT; AND NOT A MIND THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO CAPTIVATE AND SEDUCE THE UNIVERSE TO GIVE HIM THIS SUPERSONIC RIDE THROUGH LIFE^ I HAVE THE UTMOST CONFIDENCE IN HIM AND RESPECT HIM FOR HIS OPINIONS AND CHOICES, JUST AS I AM SURE HE’D RESPECT MINE^
SOMETIMES , BEING IN THE COMPANY OF LOVE HELPS TO CHANGE MINDS^
LOVE IN DETAILS^
NAJMAH
Well Said Najmah, I hope so too.
-NOW
http://www.weareallone.tv
Saul Sells Out?
One of, perhaps the greatest western poet of his generation clearly putting his music career first.
Anyone would be flattered by such an offer but if ou think of the implications, how could he consider this the right thing to do?
Even as recently as this year reports have come out saying that the large clothing and sports manurfacturers are still being found using child and sweatshop labour in the third world.
I can’t believe he would refer his audience member to the Nike corporate responsibilty text, everyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together (who’s not in the industry) knows that this is the definition of bullshit. Perhaps he is so idolised it has gone to his head and he thinks he can do anything???
Rightfully so, everyone has their own opinion about how Saul should’ve went about bringing change in this world but no one should question the man’s intentions. I don’t know him personally but I can pretty much tell through his various communications with the outside world that he is of sincere and genuine character. Calling him a sellout because you don’t agree with his methods of bringing about change is misdirected.
Personally, I agree with what he’s doing. Going against the prevailing system of power is great and can bring about lots of change. But it certainly has its limitations. To bring change in this world, we all need to work together; not against each other.
PS: I don’t know why I used the word “change” four times just now
Love, I meditated on the Koan presented by Saul
The KyoSaku Shot my Mind apart from seeming comfort, stupid vegetable
consideration pretending as awake.
By any memes necessary, necessarily we can hack the matrix however we please
The awareness participates in degrees.
The biggest difference that I see in Saul is a difference which is still taking place in me. That is to suspend and eliminate judgement. We need to do that in order to see the big picture, in order to see the humanity in each of our beings (including our own). That means that when you start drawing clear lines between “right” and “wrong” you are creating, through your intent, duality. In order to create ONE, we need to welcome what we once labeled as “evil” into the “goodness” of our “righteousness” realizing that i and I are neither. We all play our part in creating ONE reality. Us “hating” evil creates the same thing as those “hating” good. There are no words, rationalizations or arguments (or muscle, weapons, etc.) that are strong enough to create, or manifest so that all can see, TRUTH. TRUTH exists as an indescribable Experience in the ONENESS. We all have a piece of that TRUTH because we are all a part of that ONENESS…even NIKE…even SAUL…even I…even i…PEACE
Well said Moses, I have also been going through this internal struggle in recent days. Alot of people don’t seem to understand this concept of.. well, understanding. Most arguements can be ended by simply trying to understand the other side’s point of view and in doing so, you can use that point of view to meet a common ground. This anti-judgement is a simple yet elusive way of thinking that should be more looked into by anyone/everyone. I understand what Saul is doing, and I am behind him 110%. Bringing the system down from within is the only way it can be done, and with all things considered, it is a fitting way to end it or change it into something new and good. Simply hating something is not the answer, no matter what reasons you may have.
(rats, i lost my original, long, post. here’s a quicker version):
saul, i don’t doubt your sincerity. but, let’s be honest, you’re arguing with a straw man (i.e. the reactionary that cries ’sell-out’ while pointing to an image of sweat-shop babies: nike=sweatshops, therefore nike commercial=bad).
’saul does a nike commercial’ / ‘nike does a saul commercial.’ it’s a clever reversal. but, all the same, the fact remains– A COMMERCIAL WAS MADE. and, please dear saul, please tell me that you agree with us on this: it’s precisely ‘the commercial’ (as a category) that’s the problem– i.e. that thing/beast which convinces people to buy shit they don’t need, so that they have to work at jobs they don’t like, and in the process provide tax money to governments who wage wars that none of us (in our right minds) support.
what if wendy’s sold veggie burgers? with biodegradable wrappers? really?? is that what we’re after? is that what tops our list of demands? what about, instead, we think about time. time to spend with family and friends. with local farmers. time to spend the day preparing a feast. to experience joy. rather than running from work to the local fast-food shop to scarf down some nutrition packaged as food. who cares if a veggie burger has vitamins (seriously, what were you talking about)? ask yourself instead: how are the calories going to get burned? in joy, in love– or under pressure to perform? who’s making the decision on that score?
fair enough. we need the prophets of cynicism just as much as we need the profits of capital. that is, not at all. but here’s where you make (in my opinion) your crucial error. in positing an either/or. it’s not a choice between working from within or without. it’s possible for art to avoid this problem altogether. how? by giving voice to that future which lies in the present. to sing that future, that possibility, to help it reverberate.
by trying to reach as many people as possible, you tried to turn the commercial into a political venue. in the process, however, no matter how successful you were, no matter how many people looked up your lyrics after seeing the commercial, you stole something from us. you dragged your art down into the muck of the everyday. you fused it with commerce. and, as a result, took away that sountrack from elsewhere which gives us the inspiration, the strength, the courage, to work at changing this muck.
i can understand why you did it. but i just wish that you would acknowledge why it was an impossible, desperate move. the political dimension of art takes place outside of politics. in your impatience, you transgressed that taboo (one which has been recognized within political-aesthetic debates since the 1920s). and you’re now tasting the backlash– even if most people can’t articulate it much better than crying ’sell-out.’
I think it is necessary for us to question Saul’s integrity. He is an artists, and as viewers of a work of art – that is our duty. Haven’t we done so with all great artists. Think about Artemesia Genteleschi? Imagine if she never painted – would people ever think about ‘womens painting’ the same way? Moreover, If Saul didn’t say ‘Yes’ none of us would even be thinking about the context of the so called “sell-out problem”. Nonetheless, I think Saul’s choice to work with Nike is successful in many ways. 1. It got him exposure 2. It made people who weren’t necessary aware of ‘the nike problem’ AWARE. 3. It did what most artists want to do.. create a ‘new way of thinking’, a ‘new skepticism’ and thus ‘new questions’ to consider.. 4. and it turned common everyday people to a ‘more active mentality’ (that is, if we can give the common american enough credit to research..) – which i think we can do, considering how many people have already formed there own opinion and blogged about this topic.