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	<title>Comments on: Why Did Nike Do A Saul Williams Commercial? [video]</title>
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		<title>By: Tony Bravo</title>
		<link>http://grandgood.com/2008/04/05/why-did-nike-do-a-saul-williams-commercial-video/comment-page-1/#comment-101048</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is necessary for us to question Saul&#039;s integrity. He is an artists, and as viewers of a work of art - that is our duty. Haven&#039;t we done so with all great artists. Think about Artemesia Genteleschi? Imagine if she never painted - would people ever think about &#039;womens painting&#039; the same way?  Moreover, If Saul didn&#039;t say &#039;Yes&#039; none of us would even be thinking about the context of the so called &quot;sell-out problem&quot;. Nonetheless, I think Saul&#039;s choice to work with Nike is successful in many ways. 1. It got him exposure 2. It made people who weren&#039;t necessary aware of &#039;the nike problem&#039; AWARE. 3. It did what most artists want to do.. create a &#039;new way of thinking&#039;, a &#039;new skepticism&#039; and thus &#039;new questions&#039; to consider.. 4. and it turned common everyday people to a &#039;more active mentality&#039; (that is, if we can give the common american enough credit to research..) - which i think we can do, considering how many people have already formed there own opinion and blogged about this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is necessary for us to question Saul&#8217;s integrity. He is an artists, and as viewers of a work of art &#8211; that is our duty. Haven&#8217;t we done so with all great artists. Think about Artemesia Genteleschi? Imagine if she never painted &#8211; would people ever think about &#8216;womens painting&#8217; the same way?  Moreover, If Saul didn&#8217;t say &#8216;Yes&#8217; none of us would even be thinking about the context of the so called &#8220;sell-out problem&#8221;. Nonetheless, I think Saul&#8217;s choice to work with Nike is successful in many ways. 1. It got him exposure 2. It made people who weren&#8217;t necessary aware of &#8216;the nike problem&#8217; AWARE. 3. It did what most artists want to do.. create a &#8216;new way of thinking&#8217;, a &#8216;new skepticism&#8217; and thus &#8216;new questions&#8217; to consider.. 4. and it turned common everyday people to a &#8216;more active mentality&#8217; (that is, if we can give the common american enough credit to research..) &#8211; which i think we can do, considering how many people have already formed there own opinion and blogged about this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: ja</title>
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		<dc:creator>ja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(rats, i lost my original, long, post. here&#039;s a quicker version):

saul, i don&#039;t doubt your sincerity. but, let&#039;s be honest, you&#039;re arguing with a straw man (i.e. the reactionary that cries &#039;sell-out&#039; while pointing to an image of sweat-shop babies: nike=sweatshops, therefore nike commercial=bad).

&#039;saul does a nike commercial&#039; / &#039;nike does a saul commercial.&#039; it&#039;s a clever reversal. but, all the same, the fact remains-- A COMMERCIAL WAS MADE. and, please dear saul, please tell me that you agree with us on this: it&#039;s precisely &#039;the commercial&#039; (as a category) that&#039;s the problem-- i.e. that thing/beast which convinces people to buy shit they don&#039;t need, so that they have to work at jobs they don&#039;t like, and in the process provide tax money to governments who wage wars that none of us (in our right minds) support.

what if wendy&#039;s sold veggie burgers? with biodegradable wrappers? really?? is that what we&#039;re after? is that what tops our list of demands? what about, instead, we think about time. time to spend with family and friends. with local farmers. time to spend the day preparing a feast. to experience joy. rather than running from work to the local fast-food shop to scarf down some nutrition packaged as food. who cares if a veggie burger has vitamins (seriously, what were you talking about)? ask yourself instead: how are the calories going to get burned? in joy, in love-- or under pressure to perform? who&#039;s making the decision on that score?

fair enough. we need the prophets of cynicism just as much as we need the profits of capital. that is, not at all. but here&#039;s where you make (in my opinion) your crucial error. in positing an either/or. it&#039;s not a choice between working from within or without. it&#039;s possible for art to avoid this problem altogether. how? by giving voice to that future which lies in the present. to sing that future, that possibility, to help it reverberate.

by trying to reach as many people as possible, you tried to turn the commercial into a political venue. in the process, however, no matter how successful you were, no matter how many people looked up your lyrics after seeing the commercial, you stole something from us. you dragged your art down into the muck of the everyday. you fused it with commerce. and, as a result, took away that sountrack from elsewhere which gives us the inspiration, the strength, the courage, to work at changing this muck.

i can understand why you did it. but i just wish that you would acknowledge why it was an impossible, desperate move. the political dimension of art takes place outside of politics. in your impatience, you transgressed that taboo (one which has been recognized within political-aesthetic debates since the 1920s). and you&#039;re now tasting the backlash-- even if most people can&#039;t articulate it much better than crying &#039;sell-out.&#039;</description>
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<p>saul, i don&#8217;t doubt your sincerity. but, let&#8217;s be honest, you&#8217;re arguing with a straw man (i.e. the reactionary that cries &#8216;sell-out&#8217; while pointing to an image of sweat-shop babies: nike=sweatshops, therefore nike commercial=bad).</p>
<p>&#8216;saul does a nike commercial&#8217; / &#8216;nike does a saul commercial.&#8217; it&#8217;s a clever reversal. but, all the same, the fact remains&#8211; A COMMERCIAL WAS MADE. and, please dear saul, please tell me that you agree with us on this: it&#8217;s precisely &#8216;the commercial&#8217; (as a category) that&#8217;s the problem&#8211; i.e. that thing/beast which convinces people to buy shit they don&#8217;t need, so that they have to work at jobs they don&#8217;t like, and in the process provide tax money to governments who wage wars that none of us (in our right minds) support.</p>
<p>what if wendy&#8217;s sold veggie burgers? with biodegradable wrappers? really?? is that what we&#8217;re after? is that what tops our list of demands? what about, instead, we think about time. time to spend with family and friends. with local farmers. time to spend the day preparing a feast. to experience joy. rather than running from work to the local fast-food shop to scarf down some nutrition packaged as food. who cares if a veggie burger has vitamins (seriously, what were you talking about)? ask yourself instead: how are the calories going to get burned? in joy, in love&#8211; or under pressure to perform? who&#8217;s making the decision on that score?</p>
<p>fair enough. we need the prophets of cynicism just as much as we need the profits of capital. that is, not at all. but here&#8217;s where you make (in my opinion) your crucial error. in positing an either/or. it&#8217;s not a choice between working from within or without. it&#8217;s possible for art to avoid this problem altogether. how? by giving voice to that future which lies in the present. to sing that future, that possibility, to help it reverberate.</p>
<p>by trying to reach as many people as possible, you tried to turn the commercial into a political venue. in the process, however, no matter how successful you were, no matter how many people looked up your lyrics after seeing the commercial, you stole something from us. you dragged your art down into the muck of the everyday. you fused it with commerce. and, as a result, took away that sountrack from elsewhere which gives us the inspiration, the strength, the courage, to work at changing this muck.</p>
<p>i can understand why you did it. but i just wish that you would acknowledge why it was an impossible, desperate move. the political dimension of art takes place outside of politics. in your impatience, you transgressed that taboo (one which has been recognized within political-aesthetic debates since the 1920s). and you&#8217;re now tasting the backlash&#8211; even if most people can&#8217;t articulate it much better than crying &#8216;sell-out.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam-urai</title>
		<link>http://grandgood.com/2008/04/05/why-did-nike-do-a-saul-williams-commercial-video/comment-page-1/#comment-94620</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam-urai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Moses, I have also been going through this internal struggle in recent days. Alot of people don&#039;t seem to understand this concept of.. well, understanding. Most arguements can be ended by simply trying to understand the other side&#039;s point of view and in doing so, you can use that point of view to meet a common ground. This anti-judgement is a simple yet elusive way of thinking that should be more looked into by anyone/everyone. I understand what Saul is doing, and I am behind him 110%. Bringing the system down from within is the only way it can be done, and with all things considered, it is a fitting way to end it or change it into something new and good. Simply hating something is not the answer, no matter what reasons you may have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Moses, I have also been going through this internal struggle in recent days. Alot of people don&#8217;t seem to understand this concept of.. well, understanding. Most arguements can be ended by simply trying to understand the other side&#8217;s point of view and in doing so, you can use that point of view to meet a common ground. This anti-judgement is a simple yet elusive way of thinking that should be more looked into by anyone/everyone. I understand what Saul is doing, and I am behind him 110%. Bringing the system down from within is the only way it can be done, and with all things considered, it is a fitting way to end it or change it into something new and good. Simply hating something is not the answer, no matter what reasons you may have.</p>
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		<title>By: Moses</title>
		<link>http://grandgood.com/2008/04/05/why-did-nike-do-a-saul-williams-commercial-video/comment-page-1/#comment-77593</link>
		<dc:creator>Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest difference that I see in Saul is a difference which is still taking place in me. That is to suspend and eliminate judgement. We need to do that in order to see the big picture, in order to see the humanity in each of our beings (including our own). That means that when you start drawing clear lines between &quot;right&quot; and &quot;wrong&quot; you are creating, through your intent, duality. In order to create ONE, we need to welcome what we once labeled as &quot;evil&quot; into the &quot;goodness&quot; of our &quot;righteousness&quot; realizing that i and I are neither. We all play our part in creating ONE reality. Us &quot;hating&quot; evil creates the same thing as those &quot;hating&quot; good. There are no words, rationalizations or arguments (or muscle, weapons, etc.) that are strong enough to create, or manifest so that all can see, TRUTH. TRUTH exists as an indescribable Experience in the ONENESS. We all have a piece of that TRUTH because we are all a part of that ONENESS...even NIKE...even SAUL...even I...even i...PEACE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest difference that I see in Saul is a difference which is still taking place in me. That is to suspend and eliminate judgement. We need to do that in order to see the big picture, in order to see the humanity in each of our beings (including our own). That means that when you start drawing clear lines between &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong&#8221; you are creating, through your intent, duality. In order to create ONE, we need to welcome what we once labeled as &#8220;evil&#8221; into the &#8220;goodness&#8221; of our &#8220;righteousness&#8221; realizing that i and I are neither. We all play our part in creating ONE reality. Us &#8220;hating&#8221; evil creates the same thing as those &#8220;hating&#8221; good. There are no words, rationalizations or arguments (or muscle, weapons, etc.) that are strong enough to create, or manifest so that all can see, TRUTH. TRUTH exists as an indescribable Experience in the ONENESS. We all have a piece of that TRUTH because we are all a part of that ONENESS&#8230;even NIKE&#8230;even SAUL&#8230;even I&#8230;even i&#8230;PEACE</p>
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		<title>By: NOW</title>
		<link>http://grandgood.com/2008/04/05/why-did-nike-do-a-saul-williams-commercial-video/comment-page-1/#comment-75076</link>
		<dc:creator>NOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love, I meditated on the Koan presented by Saul
The KyoSaku Shot my Mind apart from seeming comfort, stupid vegetable 
consideration pretending as awake.

By any memes necessary, necessarily we can hack the matrix however we please

The awareness participates in degrees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love, I meditated on the Koan presented by Saul<br />
The KyoSaku Shot my Mind apart from seeming comfort, stupid vegetable<br />
consideration pretending as awake.</p>
<p>By any memes necessary, necessarily we can hack the matrix however we please</p>
<p>The awareness participates in degrees.</p>
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		<title>By: Ming-Tzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ming-Tzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rightfully so, everyone has their own opinion about how Saul should&#039;ve went about bringing change in this world but no one should question the man&#039;s intentions.  I don&#039;t know him personally but I can pretty much tell through his various communications with the outside world that he is of sincere and genuine character.  Calling him a sellout because you don&#039;t agree with his methods of bringing about change is misdirected.

Personally, I agree with what he&#039;s doing.  Going against the prevailing system of power is great and can bring about lots of change.  But it certainly has its limitations.  To bring change in this world, we all need to work together; not against each other.

PS: I don&#039;t know why I used the word &quot;change&quot; four times just now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightfully so, everyone has their own opinion about how Saul should&#8217;ve went about bringing change in this world but no one should question the man&#8217;s intentions.  I don&#8217;t know him personally but I can pretty much tell through his various communications with the outside world that he is of sincere and genuine character.  Calling him a sellout because you don&#8217;t agree with his methods of bringing about change is misdirected.</p>
<p>Personally, I agree with what he&#8217;s doing.  Going against the prevailing system of power is great and can bring about lots of change.  But it certainly has its limitations.  To bring change in this world, we all need to work together; not against each other.</p>
<p>PS: I don&#8217;t know why I used the word &#8220;change&#8221; four times just now</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://grandgood.com/2008/04/05/why-did-nike-do-a-saul-williams-commercial-video/comment-page-1/#comment-74704</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saul Sells Out?
One of, perhaps the greatest western poet of his generation clearly putting his music career first.
Anyone would be flattered by such an offer but if ou think of the implications, how could he consider this the right thing to do?
Even as recently as this year reports have come out saying that the large clothing and sports manurfacturers are still being found using child and sweatshop labour in the third world.
I can&#039;t believe he would refer his audience member to the Nike corporate responsibilty text, everyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together (who&#039;s not in the industry) knows that this is the definition of bullshit. Perhaps he is so idolised it has gone to his head and he thinks he can do anything???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saul Sells Out?<br />
One of, perhaps the greatest western poet of his generation clearly putting his music career first.<br />
Anyone would be flattered by such an offer but if ou think of the implications, how could he consider this the right thing to do?<br />
Even as recently as this year reports have come out saying that the large clothing and sports manurfacturers are still being found using child and sweatshop labour in the third world.<br />
I can&#8217;t believe he would refer his audience member to the Nike corporate responsibilty text, everyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together (who&#8217;s not in the industry) knows that this is the definition of bullshit. Perhaps he is so idolised it has gone to his head and he thinks he can do anything???</p>
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		<title>By: NOW</title>
		<link>http://grandgood.com/2008/04/05/why-did-nike-do-a-saul-williams-commercial-video/comment-page-1/#comment-74485</link>
		<dc:creator>NOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Said Najmah, I hope so too.
-NOW
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Said Najmah, I hope so too.<br />
-NOW<br />
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		<title>By: NAJMAH EL TOHAMI</title>
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		<dc:creator>NAJMAH EL TOHAMI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PEACE^
I TOO LOVE KING SAUL&#039;S GENIUS^ AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR SENTIMENT TO A DEGREE^ I AM 100% SURE THAT HE HAS MADE THE BEST DECISION NECESSARY^ I&#039;M SADDENED THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING SELL-OUT; AND NOT A MIND THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO CAPTIVATE AND SEDUCE THE UNIVERSE TO GIVE HIM THIS SUPERSONIC RIDE THROUGH LIFE^ I HAVE THE UTMOST CONFIDENCE IN HIM AND RESPECT HIM FOR HIS OPINIONS AND CHOICES, JUST AS I AM SURE HE&#039;D RESPECT MINE^
SOMETIMES , BEING IN THE COMPANY OF LOVE HELPS TO CHANGE MINDS^
LOVE IN DETAILS^
NAJMAH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PEACE^<br />
I TOO LOVE KING SAUL&#8217;S GENIUS^ AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR SENTIMENT TO A DEGREE^ I AM 100% SURE THAT HE HAS MADE THE BEST DECISION NECESSARY^ I&#8217;M SADDENED THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING SELL-OUT; AND NOT A MIND THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO CAPTIVATE AND SEDUCE THE UNIVERSE TO GIVE HIM THIS SUPERSONIC RIDE THROUGH LIFE^ I HAVE THE UTMOST CONFIDENCE IN HIM AND RESPECT HIM FOR HIS OPINIONS AND CHOICES, JUST AS I AM SURE HE&#8217;D RESPECT MINE^<br />
SOMETIMES , BEING IN THE COMPANY OF LOVE HELPS TO CHANGE MINDS^<br />
LOVE IN DETAILS^<br />
NAJMAH</p>
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		<title>By: Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 07:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just watched the commercial.  Saul nothing in your song&#039;s use in that video corresponds with the picture you have painted in regards to Nike&#039;s commitment to human rights and sustainability.

This is not to say, that they have not done well to at least be willing to present their conscious directives  on the site nikeresponsibility.com.  

The point I&#039;m trying to make is that for the risk to your clout as a truly progressive renaissance emcee; is that they should at least have had the song correspond with their sustainable marketing  push.

Nothing in the commercial leads me to believe that Nike is doing anything other than what they always have which is to sex up athletic competition and appeal to man&#039;s base desires to dominate in sport ritual.

I was hoping that they would make that preeminent if they were to feature one of your songs and jeopardize your standing as an uncompromising artist.

Now did you feel that you caused them to reach this epiphany, or were you merely a figure who represented the ideals of the LOHAS  (lifestyles of health and sustainability) market?
Are you a social meme who they are employing to convey that they are hip to evolutionary ideals?

And if so why?  Did you have any control over the message of the commercial?
How is it that your grand awareness is being presented to the public at large
other than by suggestion?  A suggestion that  would only be understood by  those who
are familiar with your work and activism.   And  yet at first glance most likely
cause them to cringe upon seeing your beautiful song used in such a hollow manner. (in my humble opinion, saul I can&#039;t watch the damn commercial, it makes me sad)

As a long time fan I am only being honest with you as to how viewing
the commercial made me feel.

I and many of your fans,I imagine would like to know;
Is nike willing to submit to independent oversight in regards to the
maintenance of their own stated eco-conscious agenda?

How will they express this in future commercials rather than in
an online pdf.

I give Saul kudos for wanting to invoke a new paradigm by whatever means necessary.
I hope in the future he will when working with tainted corporations; who seek
to redeem their image in order to insure their continued place (dominance) in the market, take
steps to insure that they maintain their agreements.

Also I should hope he would express the details of his contract and what his plans were to spend the money earned in exchange for the use of his image.  Transparency engenders trust and shows courage and openness.  It is these traits that nike is seeking to emulate no?

I hope his signal remains strong as he desires
to pull others up aware or not.

I believe this is possible and am optimistic.  
In the spirit of Ray Anderson I too desire to see all industries become more conscious and aware in their practices.  Saul is right, cynicism is debilitating when a bridge cannot be made between opposing viewpoints.

Dr. King was expert in ensuring that both sides of the debate&#039;s opinions were heard and that a
compromise could be born between them.  He truly understood the maxim
&quot;The only true way to rid yourself of an enemy is to make them a friend.&quot;

Nike has the power and the influence to help steer all in the apparel industry towards a more sustainable path.  I applaud there effort, the argument could be made that their advertising is already working being that I am taking the time to pen this response.  But I must say they shouldn&#039;t pat themselves on the back too soon as they have a large karmic debt to pay in regard to their companies psychic impact on humanity.  They reap a massive profit from every shoe that is constructed and similar to old money from slavery owe the debt of reparations rather than only enhanced working conditions for their still enslaved work force.  Saul I know what you are trying to do, but you have to be careful and also take pains to hold them accountable.
I know you wish what is best for all mankind, this is a risky strategy and one that Im not sure is in line with your previous infrastructure hacking.  But then again I could very well be wrong,
if you can inspire Nas to realize and ponder more deeply his effect on young minds, hopefully you can do the same with multi-national corporations. Not that I&#039;m comparing the two.


Ray Anderson&#039;s company Interface was able to achieve this result and has proven the power of an idea whose time has come when it is employed with positive intention.

The Revolutionary predilection towards a &quot;Scorched Earth&quot; policy  is likened to Chemotherapy.  Yes we may survive the treatment,  but the time of recovery could be extensive and in the end prove unnecessarily costly; and in light of Dr. Bruce Lipton&#039;s Epi-genetic research; just unnecessary.

Saul I again commend you for at least presenting this issue for comment and consideration.

Congratulations on your marriage and to your continued success as an avatar of soul.

Love always

-NOW (Camron)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just watched the commercial.  Saul nothing in your song&#8217;s use in that video corresponds with the picture you have painted in regards to Nike&#8217;s commitment to human rights and sustainability.</p>
<p>This is not to say, that they have not done well to at least be willing to present their conscious directives  on the site nikeresponsibility.com.  </p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m trying to make is that for the risk to your clout as a truly progressive renaissance emcee; is that they should at least have had the song correspond with their sustainable marketing  push.</p>
<p>Nothing in the commercial leads me to believe that Nike is doing anything other than what they always have which is to sex up athletic competition and appeal to man&#8217;s base desires to dominate in sport ritual.</p>
<p>I was hoping that they would make that preeminent if they were to feature one of your songs and jeopardize your standing as an uncompromising artist.</p>
<p>Now did you feel that you caused them to reach this epiphany, or were you merely a figure who represented the ideals of the LOHAS  (lifestyles of health and sustainability) market?<br />
Are you a social meme who they are employing to convey that they are hip to evolutionary ideals?</p>
<p>And if so why?  Did you have any control over the message of the commercial?<br />
How is it that your grand awareness is being presented to the public at large<br />
other than by suggestion?  A suggestion that  would only be understood by  those who<br />
are familiar with your work and activism.   And  yet at first glance most likely<br />
cause them to cringe upon seeing your beautiful song used in such a hollow manner. (in my humble opinion, saul I can&#8217;t watch the damn commercial, it makes me sad)</p>
<p>As a long time fan I am only being honest with you as to how viewing<br />
the commercial made me feel.</p>
<p>I and many of your fans,I imagine would like to know;<br />
Is nike willing to submit to independent oversight in regards to the<br />
maintenance of their own stated eco-conscious agenda?</p>
<p>How will they express this in future commercials rather than in<br />
an online pdf.</p>
<p>I give Saul kudos for wanting to invoke a new paradigm by whatever means necessary.<br />
I hope in the future he will when working with tainted corporations; who seek<br />
to redeem their image in order to insure their continued place (dominance) in the market, take<br />
steps to insure that they maintain their agreements.</p>
<p>Also I should hope he would express the details of his contract and what his plans were to spend the money earned in exchange for the use of his image.  Transparency engenders trust and shows courage and openness.  It is these traits that nike is seeking to emulate no?</p>
<p>I hope his signal remains strong as he desires<br />
to pull others up aware or not.</p>
<p>I believe this is possible and am optimistic.<br />
In the spirit of Ray Anderson I too desire to see all industries become more conscious and aware in their practices.  Saul is right, cynicism is debilitating when a bridge cannot be made between opposing viewpoints.</p>
<p>Dr. King was expert in ensuring that both sides of the debate&#8217;s opinions were heard and that a<br />
compromise could be born between them.  He truly understood the maxim<br />
&#8220;The only true way to rid yourself of an enemy is to make them a friend.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nike has the power and the influence to help steer all in the apparel industry towards a more sustainable path.  I applaud there effort, the argument could be made that their advertising is already working being that I am taking the time to pen this response.  But I must say they shouldn&#8217;t pat themselves on the back too soon as they have a large karmic debt to pay in regard to their companies psychic impact on humanity.  They reap a massive profit from every shoe that is constructed and similar to old money from slavery owe the debt of reparations rather than only enhanced working conditions for their still enslaved work force.  Saul I know what you are trying to do, but you have to be careful and also take pains to hold them accountable.<br />
I know you wish what is best for all mankind, this is a risky strategy and one that Im not sure is in line with your previous infrastructure hacking.  But then again I could very well be wrong,<br />
if you can inspire Nas to realize and ponder more deeply his effect on young minds, hopefully you can do the same with multi-national corporations. Not that I&#8217;m comparing the two.</p>
<p>Ray Anderson&#8217;s company Interface was able to achieve this result and has proven the power of an idea whose time has come when it is employed with positive intention.</p>
<p>The Revolutionary predilection towards a &#8220;Scorched Earth&#8221; policy  is likened to Chemotherapy.  Yes we may survive the treatment,  but the time of recovery could be extensive and in the end prove unnecessarily costly; and in light of Dr. Bruce Lipton&#8217;s Epi-genetic research; just unnecessary.</p>
<p>Saul I again commend you for at least presenting this issue for comment and consideration.</p>
<p>Congratulations on your marriage and to your continued success as an avatar of soul.</p>
<p>Love always</p>
<p>-NOW (Camron)<br />
<a href="http://www.weareallone.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.weareallone.tv</a></p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not buying it.

We consume wayyyy too much as americans, and NIKE should be boycotted.  Period.

Unless, Saul Williams has donated his salary from Nike to this kids in a third world country getting paid jack to build the shoes, then I&#039;m not buying it.

1.  Advocate a boycott on Nike and other products FIRST.
2.  The idea of getting paid to put a song in conjunction with a company that has a horrible history of exploitation is ominous and egregious at best.  Not to mention, that an artist&#039;s music and integrity immediately gets watered down as a result.  No one with taste appreciates an artist they dig, when the start getting in bed with advertisers.
3.  Why not use your song for a company that has great, eco-friendly, beneficial products for consumers?  Oh right -- they don&#039;t *quite* have the same bankroll of paying people to use one of their tunes.
4.  There is nothing wrong with putting a song in a commercial, if the product is a GOOD product, ESPECIALLY if that corporation doesn&#039;t have a history of such gross andblatant exploitation.  What - I&#039;m supposed to think Saul Williams is cool/thoughtful/conscious because he has a discussion with the head of Gobal marketing about slave labor?  Big deal?  The point is it is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW and no artist with a shred of diginity or integrity should get in bed with any corporation/advertisement, while that CURRENTLY EXISTS.

Look, I&#039;ve seen &#039;Slam&#039; -- it changed my life -- I loved it -- I&#039;ve seen the guy online and all of his AMAZING poetry, he is one talented dude.  I wish hi nothing but love and respect, and I like his idea of saying yes to more than less....but c&#039;mon man....make a commercial about what they are doing and what NIKE and Saul are trying to do to change it.  That would be a GREAT way to use the song, and the change in ONE...instead of getting paid a fat salary for what?  Some bullshit company that continues to exploit people as we speak?

The material world is a guise with a guise, and the extra money one could make from such disingenuous practices is gross.  I only wish more artists I looked up to, like Saul, felt the same.

Don&#039;t think we would&#039;ve seen Chuck D do one of these ads a few years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not buying it.</p>
<p>We consume wayyyy too much as americans, and NIKE should be boycotted.  Period.</p>
<p>Unless, Saul Williams has donated his salary from Nike to this kids in a third world country getting paid jack to build the shoes, then I&#8217;m not buying it.</p>
<p>1.  Advocate a boycott on Nike and other products FIRST.<br />
2.  The idea of getting paid to put a song in conjunction with a company that has a horrible history of exploitation is ominous and egregious at best.  Not to mention, that an artist&#8217;s music and integrity immediately gets watered down as a result.  No one with taste appreciates an artist they dig, when the start getting in bed with advertisers.<br />
3.  Why not use your song for a company that has great, eco-friendly, beneficial products for consumers?  Oh right &#8212; they don&#8217;t *quite* have the same bankroll of paying people to use one of their tunes.<br />
4.  There is nothing wrong with putting a song in a commercial, if the product is a GOOD product, ESPECIALLY if that corporation doesn&#8217;t have a history of such gross andblatant exploitation.  What &#8211; I&#8217;m supposed to think Saul Williams is cool/thoughtful/conscious because he has a discussion with the head of Gobal marketing about slave labor?  Big deal?  The point is it is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW and no artist with a shred of diginity or integrity should get in bed with any corporation/advertisement, while that CURRENTLY EXISTS.</p>
<p>Look, I&#8217;ve seen &#8216;Slam&#8217; &#8212; it changed my life &#8212; I loved it &#8212; I&#8217;ve seen the guy online and all of his AMAZING poetry, he is one talented dude.  I wish hi nothing but love and respect, and I like his idea of saying yes to more than less&#8230;.but c&#8217;mon man&#8230;.make a commercial about what they are doing and what NIKE and Saul are trying to do to change it.  That would be a GREAT way to use the song, and the change in ONE&#8230;instead of getting paid a fat salary for what?  Some bullshit company that continues to exploit people as we speak?</p>
<p>The material world is a guise with a guise, and the extra money one could make from such disingenuous practices is gross.  I only wish more artists I looked up to, like Saul, felt the same.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think we would&#8217;ve seen Chuck D do one of these ads a few years back.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul Williams X Nike : Know the Ledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saul Williams X Nike : Know the Ledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a solid dude with thought-provoking music. Saul had a response for the critics of the Nike spot and Grandgood was grand good enough to post it. The full, lengthy statment by Saul is after the jump. If you got [...]</description>
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